. With structured workouts and social group rides. Bike Frame + Wheel Choice. Each frame and wheelset has its own weight and CdA setting in game, and these affect your in-game speed just like they would outside. 3. Or the pavement? Nothing particularly impressive about that to most people other then me but I was pumped. I literally got one ride on on the TOA before they decided my hard earned drops needed to be detuned. You do these (standardized) tests at 300 watts and a 75kg rider? Three Little Sisters, in contrast, takes us over the Hilly, Titans Grove, and Volcano KOMs - in that order. So we dont get the option of riding our own gravel bikes on st4? Ouch. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Whats the difference between the Three Sisters and Lower watts=lower speeds=bigger time gaps. Plus some of the the dirt paths are steeper than the jungle on watopia where the kg come into play. Workout Xp Points. Youre looking for a frame and wheels which are quite aerodynamic, but still lightweight. Slower riders: if you ride at 3 w/kg, youll see a bigger time advantage by using the gravel bike on the Temple KOM. The 8 wheelsets on our fastest climbers list are separated by just 8 seconds, while the 7 frames on our fastest climbers list are separated by just 4 seconds. Glad I only wasted drops on all the new gravel wheels getting ready for stage 4 while deciding which specialized frame to get. Riders rode through a VHS filter in neon kits with brightly-painted steel bikes and cool sunglasses. I am truly 46kg and 50 The deep wheelsets are to heavy for me. Hit it hard to finish in a couple of minutes, or take it easy. No scientific test, just from riding Sea to Tree (longer side of Temple KOM) around FTP effort: Zwift. the up-side is that once you reach the cat limits (w/kg), you dont get promoted, until you also exceed the raw wattage FTP requirements. At the time of this post, Zwift has 80+ bike frames and 30+ wheelsets available. Top marks as ever! So the new Crux and Enve gravel wheels I bought for the ToW will be sitting in my garage while I get assigned a standard bike? In the off-road parts, I had to be careful not to ride off the front of the bunch (mostly on Trons), but had to double-down to stay with them when back on the asphalt it felt like you had a -20w anchor. While you're on the main island, check out the blimp. So for the 2x and the route bonus I decided to ride it. Is that just the margin of error here because the climb is so much shorter, or is it all the flat (and flat-ish) bits where the aero ability of the Grail shines through? Can I email support and ask for a refund or exchange for the addict? Thank you for replying James. Do you want an edge on the dirt climb? You can also use the Zwift Hacks tools to get onto the route. We've modeled the Three Sisters route using the typical standard bike characteristics from Zwift along with rolling resistance data supplied by ( Zwift Insider ). Not only this, but it would be nice to know whether the gap between, say, the S-Works Venge and the new Pinarello F is still two seconds at 200 watts or whether it changes. 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To be sure, there was no change in the gravel bikes itself? Our math and physics engine takes your power data . Hi I would choose Canyon Aerod 2021 as Chapter 2 TOA performance has been downgraded since the last update. But I only have one X chromosome! lopom x11 drone manual. He named it in homage to Zwift's official " Three Sisters " route which takes us over the Hilly, Volcano, and Epic KOMs. What? Use the most slippery frame and wheels you can afford, then go go go! Guessing the drit crr number will slow it alot so gravel will beat it if just the dirt climb not a whole route of mostly pavement. Based on the amount of time spent on swapping bikes, it doesnt look like swapping before and after the dirt on the Countryside tour will end up saving much/any time on anything other than the last lap, but FTS points for the KoM may make changing bikes aRead more . . Would you like to receive alerts of new posts? Version 1.13.1? Eric did a whole post about retesting with the fixed group sets. The CycleOps Phantom 3 has quickly become a favorite for many cyclists. Interactive map to discover all worlds and routes of Zwift. On a flat course, you would have to do the same watts as a heavier rider to keep up (ignoring less aero for aRead more . Try free for 14 days. The most aero frame and wheels you have available, especially if joining the first TOW event at 1700 GMT Nearly 4000 sign ups with ~40mins still to go! Anything else and youre handing places to the competition. Exactly! Id take the Grail, just because I like it (and never am in a race where that would make a big difference) Then the Crux with the ENVE G23 @ 16:37 Big difference!!! For detailed information on specific sections of the route, simply drag over that section on the Time Analysis chart to zoom in (note the data under Route Overview updates to Zoomed Area). If the mental game is important, then its probably worth doing a bit of research and picking the fastest frame for your course. Last year's April Fool's update from Zwift was a completely 80s themed makeover to the app. Do you know if bike weights in Zwift are scaled at all in proportion to rider size? Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (www.zwift.com), although Zwift does provide funding to help defray site costs. Bit of publicity to the manufacturer to have them hand over more cash. See how you can support Zwift Insider! This site contains affiliate links to Amazon, Wahoo, and other brands. Frames and wheels in the Drop Shop have a star weight and aero rating, and the more stars, the better! Just joking). How about NEVER? Trusted by the pros. Zwift Insider makes a small commission on purchases made from these links, so please shop through them to support our efforts. The problem you are likely seeing is that there are two segments, one that matches if you do the route as a free ride (and unless you use some hack to ride an event-only route you have to manually make all the turns), and the newer one that starts from the start pens. Check out the 2023 Zwift trainer buyers guide: https://zracecentral.com/best-trainers-for-zwift-2023/. Good to have a dirt KOM also nice new options in this map, enjoying it so far! Sounded to good to be true. Begin at the standard downtown Watopia start point, and head directly up the Hilly KOM forward. Was there another update today? I only recently earned the Zwift Concept Z1 but, the more I read, the more Im convinced theres little reason to use anything other than the Z1 else unless Im shooting for a specific PR. It also rolls faster than the MTB on pavement, and turns in the overall fastest times. Just like outside, a more aero setup will perform best on high-speed flats and downhills, while a lighter-weight bike is what you want for long climbs. The only exceptions that I can see to this would be. Three Little Sisters, in contrast, takes us over the Hilly, Titans Grove, and . Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (www.zwift.com), although Zwift does provide funding to help defray site costs. Thats the wheel set Im leaning towards. I got dropped on tarmac shortly after start despite producing 350W, no way to catch the C category bunch. For example Sea to Tree looks like a gravel heaven, but the first section from the start pen until the first metres of dirt is like 1.3km on tarmac. The heart of the Zwift Hub is its power meter, which accurately measures your pedal power in watts. R. As noted above, everyone gets the Zwift Gravel bike and Zwift Gravel wheels. Altitude: - m. Tarmac: 41.8km (87%) Wood: 2.0km (4%) Cobbles: 318m (1%) Snow: 2 . You know you should really put a disclaimer on all performance pages that the timings change frequently without warning or reason and the charts are frequently out of date. This question is best answered by breaking Zwift racers into three cohorts and giving each their own answer: It seems that every time I line up for a Zwift race, someone in the start pen is on the stock Zwift Carbon frame and 32mm wheels. I know this route is confusing because it used to be a rebel route (ie no way to select the route) but now it is an official event route. Very nicely done breaking down the stages and best bike choices! Zwift should hire Eric to test their new equipment BEFORE theyre released! Up the road a bit (just past the dinosaurs) is the start of our second KOM of the day. Three Little Sisters (from Start Pen) Perfect . Do I need to refresh my history somehow to see my time count? Trusted by the pros. As far as I can tell the only useful recommendation is not to worry about frames unless youre racing and until you reach level 30 and have several million drops so you can buy whatever happens to be fastest that month. And the 6 wheels on our fastest wheelsets list are separated by just 10 seconds. It was the best all-rounder last week by some distance. Do your results mean that the Canyon Grail is faster than the Specialized Crux with the Gravel Wheels? 3R Three Sisters Hilly Race (47km/29.2mi 879m) Race. Try free for 14 days. Worked really well on Kappa Quest up the KOM and was manageable on the road. I hadnt added a Zwift gravel bike yet, but with four million extra drops to burn, the game finally gave me a reason to spend some of them. Theyre going to eventually have to increase the number of levels beyond 50. Hi all just completed the route for the third time but received no badge whilst I have to be honest first two times I took the wrong route lol but third time no issues any ideas? I suspected theyd nerf it. Just, like, a 50-percentile throwback from Colnago or Trek or Bridgestone (companies that already have Zwift frames and made gorgeous steel back in the day) would be so nice.). all riders will be placed on the Zwift Gravel bike with Zwift Gravel wheels. I have a solo ride on this route just over 62 minutes, was 3.14w/kg. p.s. /ebdmpr/three-sisters-zwift-bike-choice,x,120mm,Plane,Propeller,3-Blade,Electric,$3,dreamsofpurple.com,EFLUP120703B,Propellers,70mm,Toys Hobbies , Radio Control Control Line , RC Model Vehicle Parts Accs , Body Parts Interior , Airplanes , See more EFLUP120703B E-Flite 12,E-flite $3 E-flite 120mm x 70mm 3-Blade Propeller EFLUP120703B Propellers . This RACE is brought to you by 3R to help draw attention to our charity partners. Swapping from one bike to another is often done heading in and out of the Jungle Circuit in Watopia. That is frustrating. The choice is yours! Route details for "Three Sisters" in Watopia on Zwift. The only way to access this route right now is to use the Zwift Hacks Zwift Prefs tool. How about an article about the best looking rig, cause thats the sole reason some of us ride bikes, fitness and speed are an unintended consequence :-). And while the Gravel bikes with stock wheels are slightly slower than the MTB on the dirt sections, it makes up for that lost time by outperforming the MTB on the tarmac by 10 seconds. Zwift Insider makes a small commission on purchases made from these links, so please shop through them to support our efforts. Also picked up the Cannondale Evo for climbing. Great work !! Thanks, All the nerfing and changing is bs. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Are you going to create a from start pier or segment starts just after start pier segment for this so people doing it in the tour of watopia match a segment? I think there will probably be community events with it eventually? This advice is good for individual time trial or solo KOMs. Since this is an event only route it seems that unless one uses a hack like zwiftpref there is no way to match this segment other than using manual turns. Even if your bike isnt noticeably faster than the next option, if you think youre on the fastest rig available, you dont have that irksome My bike is slowing me down thought in the back of your mind. Given all this, here are my recommendations for which type of bike to use on each Yumezi route during a race: If youre not sure which Gravel or MTB to pick, read our report on Gravel Bike Performance and Mountain Bike Performance. In other words, does Zwift have different frame sizes for different sized riders? . With structured workouts and social group rides. There is some flat in the course. In a typical road race, many riders spend much of the time trying to conserve their energy so they can attack (or survive!) Thanks. For me, at 83kg, 2.5w/kg (C Cadence pace) is 207W, while 3.2w/kg (B. Brevet pace) is 265W. Length: 47.8 km (29.7 miles)Elevation: 879 m (2,884)Lead-In: 0.5 km (0.3 miles)Map: Watopia, Three Sisters He named it in homage to Zwifts official Three Sisters route which takes us over the Hilly, Volcano, and Epic KOMs. Workout Xp Points. This community-driven site is maintained by Eric Schlange and a team of Zwift enthusiasts. OLD Three Sisters Reverse. I would have rather had Road to Sky as an option for the chance of the Lightweight wheels. CycleOps Phantom 3. Zwift Level Unlocks - How to Get XP Points and Level Up Rides Xp Points. I am wondering, if that qualify the Aeroad as a better all-rounder than the TOA, Eric, we are really curious on the new numbers of the Chapter2!!! How do you think the MTB and Grail would perform at a faster pace say 5-6 w/kg? But, what about the Grail with the ENVE G23? And it gets even more complex when youre talking about routes with a mixture of surfaces! For a quick video on how to use it, head over to this video. No incentive for me to drop shop or care really. Would be a pain to have every size and CdA for every bike though, I definitely have issues with a few of the bikes Ive tried. minimum groups amazon oa. Ill definitely need the double draft train to pull me along (are they releasing a triple draft yet? Weird to roll out new gravel frame and wheels and then not let zwifters use them for their handful of gravel event! Privacy Policy, How to Race on Zwift (Setup, Strategy, and More). Theres like 100 frames on there already. finally get to dust of my canyon grail i think it was getting rusty in my garage just sitting there! Amazing found indeed. I just want to ride the gravel bike occasionally, this will be my go to since i dont plan to race, maybe on a group ride if everybody does a switch i will join the majority. Those guys who flew past me on the tarmac on the way there got chewed up by the gravel bike. New bikes? my god you measurebators are insufferable. The Specialized Tarmac Pro (not the same as Specialized Tarmac) and the Enve SES 3.4 unless you have unlocked the Meilenstein LIghtweight by going up the Alpe du Zwift and being fortunate enough to have the spinner land on them. Not that theres a long stretch of supertuckable road on the descent, but I might need to rest after blowing up on the climb to the tree. Points are based on interval type, length, and completion accuracy. 510 195 lbs and not much of a climber using Spec Allez sprint with 808s with 200,000 drips wanting to buy my next frame soon. Article states in an event only route (Tour of Watopia) which doesnt start until the 9th March (tomorrow). Each new climb is longer than the one before, and we take the shortest possible route to get from climb to climb. One of the earliest graphic elements on Zwift flew over to Watopia on day 1. Given that your frame/wheel tests are only for solo time trials, perhaps it would make sense to choose a lighter setup for pack races. Would love your thoughts, please comment. STAGE 4: RACE LIKE A PRO Three Little Sisters (Movistar) (B) Total Entrants--Jersey-- I finally reached level 33 and bought the Scott Addict RC. If youre on Zwift free riding, doing workouts, exploring new maps, or enjoying social rides, having the fastest bike really isnt a big deal. Its been the sole purpose of my Zwift existence post L25, when interesting unlocks dried up. Eric, Can you tell us at least qualitatively how these numbers (or advantages) would change at lower Watts (like say 200). Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (www.zwift.com), although Zwift does provide funding to help defray site costs. It wasnt mentioned officially in the patch notes. This works out to approximately 7W saved less significant than the flat test, but probably noticeable if youre on the rivet. Add the fact that if I am pushing 200w on this or a TT frame, it is still 200w. Great article! Originally published as a Rebel Route by Zwift Insider in February 2020, "Three Little Sisters" was suggested by Zwifter Gene Kruger. It will save you significant wattage, especially in flat/rolling races. And only you control your speed there is no drafting. The Three Sisters route covers Watopias three oldest climbs (Hilly KOM, Epic KOM, and Volcano KOM) in a forward direction. The other two route options for stage one are Watopias Figure 8 and Two Bridges Loop. What you see below is the written version of my answer to Rick. On dirt I did 280W all up to the finish but never saw the main bunch again apart from few slow guys. da different power ups for different bike types would be another nice element. Three Little Sisters (Stage 1) With a mix of shorter climbs, rollers, .

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