MIJA RIEDEL: That actually leads beautifully to this next question, which is, do you think there's a difference between artists that are trained in a university and artists that learn another way? I think Manuel was there in the late 50s, early 60s, too, wasn't he? NEIL WILLIAMS: And she always wanted them to go to the right collections and the right collectors andshe was justI don't know, she was areally unusual, because you don't hear that. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. And it'sI don't run around feeling proud of it, but I guess I am. Some of them reminded me of Hieronymus Bosch for some reason. What a loss. So, it's been good. It's likewhat was that Dali said, not that these are masterpieces in any way, I would never try and equate myself with any great artists like that, but "No masterpiece was ever made by a lazy artist." NEIL WILLIAMS: I have artists that I stay in touch with, the ones that I grew up with. Anybody particularly significant to the work? I think Viola, herself, said they enabled her to deal with a mixture of two and three-D, in the round. I love that scene, "Bring out your dead." Is there respect for it? NEIL WILLIAMS: And it was a nice transition for her to go into her next phase tobut I was really pleased to be able to help her in that. MIJA RIEDEL: Since we're talking about Rena and Dorothy Weiss, why don't we answer these questions about exhibitions, and your relationships with dealers over the years? 0000030898 00000 n And, I would get up and I would go out and leave my keys sitting on the table, that kind of stuff. It was a public and a private. Like I said, you never knew when you were going to catch him. And Viola was there in the ceramics department? NEIL WILLIAMS: I think it becameshe stillshe keptstill kept the great detail. He was going to donate fantastic paintings, and it's like, "Well, but you have Motherwell's all over the place in storage." NEIL WILLIAMS: Like I said, she was very asexual, NEIL WILLIAMS: like he was, too. So I don't know. So there was a. She was very patient and shesized people up and, as far as what would be the best fit for Viola. I wanted to ask you about [. When I spoke with Rena, she talked about introducing Viola to Patterson Sims. And itand then something got softer about it, I thought. No, it's really like, how do we celebrate our lives? Yeah, so, but that's just another recent friendship that's been real important. NEIL WILLIAMS: Even Velazquez and all of those amazingVermeer and all those incredible painters. NEIL WILLIAMS: Hand-built, but some great conceptual work, I mean just really enlightened, brilliant ladies. She earned it. NEIL WILLIAMS: I'm feeling much better, thank you. But on one-on-one, he was magnificent. They were on the back burner or no burner at all. 0000005828 00000 n But, earlier, when she was younger, and she was able to do the painting, and I think the sculptures were much moreglove-like. Mario's retired, but theythe thing about them is they remindand that's why Jason Rhoades kept coming backthey remind everyone what it is to stay a human being in all of that. I mean, I get students that spend time with other people for two years and can't do a thing, and then in a matter of couple of quick sessions, they just blossom, and I love that. There was just something delightfully twisted and humorous and perverse and edgy. And then the family I know got it about 65 years ago. Or, that's what I mean about. He hadI mean, every time he would do a show, the Germans who loved him, the young Germans, would write a book on him. NEIL WILLIAMS: She talked aboutwell, she talked out milking depression for all it was worth. Or does [. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: [Laughs.] NEIL WILLIAMS: Because they wereat the time, they were smaller, NEIL WILLIAMS: They were just big enough, but they were alsothey had thissense about them that obviously somebody was very tied, emotionally, to this image. MIJA RIEDEL:you'd mentioned, or were going to mention. It was a wonderful food, but it was also a wonderful fuel, because I wanted more. But thank God it is. But, there was stuff that got taken. Prayer is vital to faith in Jesus Christ. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, it was a great testament to what an amazing educator Thiebaud was, too. So, I don't really think about, like, proper gallery representation or anything like that anymore. MIJA RIEDEL: And whathowwere they all relatively low fire? MIJA RIEDEL: Are there any critics or writers that have been significant to you, you've learned from or appreciated or. And someone else said, "It's 90 percent labor and 10 percent magic." There can bethey can get really good quality if you get connected with the right person. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, the people around Arts and Crafts there at the time. If my work can do that, that's all I could hope for. Do you know the horticulturalist's name? NEIL WILLIAMS: He thought it was beautiful, the little old ladies hanging up. And he had experience in Japan. Toby and. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh yes. I know you said you don't normally do commissions, and you don't like them, and there are multiple reasons for that, but you did do one in 1986 for the LA County Museum? NEIL WILLIAMS: I thought so, too. Where you went to school and what that was like? I mean, go figure that. Does that feel accurate to you, and. And they're still not quite, know why, but there's an electrochemical in the cells of the heart which causes it to beat. He said, "I always considered these, or conceived these as individual." NEIL WILLIAMS: two of the premier Bay Area figurative artists of the time. ], NEIL WILLIAMS: I can't remember if Viola said it or it was said at a lecture. I remember, I used to read all kinds of stuff. . We have estimated Neil Williamss net worth, money, salary, income, and assets. And I was talking about being young and feeling the pressure of having tomy work should say something more politically and socially significant and I was a little frustrated by that. "I would," she says. Were not perfect, and we all need to follow President [Russell M.] Nelsons counsel about daily efforts to change, to repent., President Nelson taught, Hope emanates from the Lord . NEIL WILLIAMS: And she's like, she would say, "This is our thing, Neil." It's early yet. 0000013392 00000 n Through this experience I realized that Christ overcame everything and He overcame all of our pain and all of our suffering and He gave me so much peace through this experience., There is no need to be fearful about the tests of life, Elder Andersen said. she used to buy these boxes of doughnuts and bring them into either to class or she'd bring them home because she thought I would want doughnuts when I'm working. Blackouts, are you referring to? It's just the cuts, they've gone from straight-line horizontal-vertical planes to diagonal and to curvilinear shapes. And then multiple layers of color. And they always seem to have their rewards. Really enlightened. Andbut hetheir relationship was real unusual. And what a lovely turn of phrase to use when talking to them. NEIL WILLIAMS: No, certainly seeing the great European work. MIJA RIEDEL: Placer High School, okay. I remember one of the great stories about that, about making so much work wasoh my God, when she had an open party, like a little dinner party and Richard Shaw and Arneson and Manuel Neri had come and a bunch of other people, and Rena Bransten, and, of course, who luckily was repping her by then, NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, because I just think it wasI just think the world of Rena and I. He had the CaliforniaHuell Howser for KVIE? NEIL WILLIAMS: Uh-huh. NEIL WILLIAMS: But, she wasjust extraordinary and raw, pure energy and just that her tenacious way she devoured images and devoured the process of making stuff and working with color and form, and fluidly between two and three dimensional like that was really rare. So there's a certainalso, which clay, I think, brings aboutthere's a certain naturalness, and there's a certain human quality that it's a natural conductor for. And he was the director of SACOG Council of Governments in Sacramento. . MIJA RIEDEL: Clay seemed a way for her to channel experience that was personal, but not necessarily make the piece be self-referential. Three days a week? The endowment gives us more clarity to the difficulties and the temptations before us. R&S takes all care in the preparation of information appearing on the site, but accepts no responsibility nor warrants the accuracy of the information displayed. She's standing on the closet door and surrounding her on all the shelves are hundreds and hundreds of these little figurines. [Trials] just come, Elder Andersen said. NEIL WILLIAMS: That's because I'm not going to give up. MIJA RIEDEL: What was significant about Mario? NEIL WILLIAMS: because it brought in painting and color concerns, which I had no experience in. My older brothers had a friend who was a parolee out of Soledad. It's incredible!" And, I also found it was really interesting because they werethey found themselves into collections of paintings and other paintings and sculptors that I really like, too. Web[Biographical cuttings on Neil Williams, jockey, containing one or more cuttings from newspapers or journals] Get this Comments (0) Librarian's View Copyright Status Online But those guys still have impacts. So he would keep the conception always around her. And, of course, she'd make deals, you know, "I'll pay you so much a month whether you work or not." NEIL WILLIAMS: I like that connection. Elder Holland taught, Accompanying that bright hope will be the undeniable whisper that God loves you, that Christ is your Advocate, that the gospel is true. [Affirmative.] And so, I mean, not that they're in the same realm whatsoever but. NEIL WILLIAMS: She was sharing a private aspect of a life that celebrated color and form and figure images. MIJA RIEDEL: Did he write much about her work? $ 199.99 Neal Williams - 2013 Soundgarden - New York Concert Poster. I'm not, because I know my work is good. NEIL WILLIAMS: Here. What Are We? And just keep them interesting for yourself." [Laughs.] NEIL WILLIAMS: So, I stuck with it. A natural presenter and storyteller, Neil is a great client-facing guy and clients love him. But, it was nice that she said, "It's okay to do that, it's okay to stay in a vessel image. I do. Some cookies are placed by third party services that appear on our pages. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. And they were doing wonderful work, advanced work, even though they didn't have art backgrounds, but. NEIL WILLIAMS: I wasViola was just coming out ofViola was getting very pressed to get work out and around and she really needed help and, NEIL WILLIAMS: there wasn't anyone else near her that I saw or, I don't think that Charles saw, that could jump in there andfirst of all figure her out, what she wanted. In their scalein terms of their scale alone, yeah. Mario Ferrante was there at the time, and he had even kind of taken over, filled a really important role as kind of a surrogate father to me, because my own was MIA though, he was very detached. So, looking back, it's been refreshing, so, thank you. And I realizedhe just told me recently why he pesters me sometimes, and he's like "Neil, I got to see you. And, I think it helped me growing up here a lot, to be able to go to off to school, or to be able to relate to such a variety of different people successfully. It dates back to 1937, is that right? Even though they were colorful and they were kind of drawn and animated and doll-like. NEIL WILLIAMS: And he was a battlefield medic in Vietnam, and he's got this amazing aura about him. NEIL WILLIAMS: So it bolstered herI could see it really bolstered a certain competence level, to be able toyou know, even though she wasn't necessarily good at speaking in some public arenas, she was really thought-provoking when she was talking about her work. [Laughs.] WebNeil Callan form, results and upcoming races. I understand now I didn't have much exposure to it, but even looking and taking art history courses at that time, it was unusual. He went through and he critiqued everything and he said, "Now, tear it up." So he just says, "Thank you, I love you, I pray for you every day," and he's just an amazing human being. Well, here's a brush, do it. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. He knew what he had to do. NEIL WILLIAMS: [Laughs.] . NEIL WILLIAMS: a composition, the clarity of image, the figure groundwork in the paintings and the charcoal, or the pastels. In high school, there were ceramics classes? I almost have many times in life, but I'm not going to. NEIL WILLIAMS: Not if I can help it anymore. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. And I think she actually made a little goblet. They had an interna volunteer installing her plate collection, and there was, I don't know, 50, 60, 70-something plates. Sam [Perry] definitely was an angel. And then he also, with his extraordinary knowledge, helped to give some context. MIJA RIEDEL: That was in '81, so you'd been working with her for four years? He had very strong opinions of where it should go, of course, but sheshe definitely was her own woman, and she was going to make what she wanted to make. NEIL WILLIAMS: And, then I realized later onan analogy for how she hoarded images, too. NEIL WILLIAMS: Although they were pastel until fired, there's a certain projection you had to do and prediction. Wonderful guy. She was in NCECA. Neal Williams - 2013 Melvins - Atlanta Concert Poster. MIJA RIEDEL: Actually, I wasn't getting at anxiety, I was getting at benefits, but I'd like the whole picture. WebNeil Williams horse jockey, racing stats, runners and news from Racing and Sports. It was hard work, physically, but I knew it was special. Pending. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, I do a variety of other things. MIJA RIEDEL: You went along on those trips? And I never thought of myself as a teacher, as more of a vehicle. She deserved it. It can help to enrich their lives no matter what their major is. But she told her students and wasI remember it stuck with methereto get yourself out of thoseshe said clay was such a natural conductor for that. And, I was really, very, and profoundly appreciative of that. So. NEIL WILLIAMS: Some functional, sculptural. Besides how grateful I am to be here, and be able to look back in retrospect andI just thoughtone of the things I thought, I was saying to my wife this morning that, it seems like I've done more in my life so far than I'm aware of. 0 And, for some reason, I always knew what the thing was. September first? NEIL WILLIAMS: So, there was a friend who had gotten several pairs and she called them "The Keys of Life," and my concept was in the paintedthe straight line painted ones. NEIL WILLIAMS: He would write stuffI mean, I'd find little notes all over the place, little critiques about, you know. And she could work so long, and then the next morning, it was like she was right back into it. She was really comfortable and fun to be around. I thought, from your C.V. that you had a couple solo shows with Dorothy in. I started doing it around her after a while. We're in Oakland, there is no there there without those trees." Net Worth in 2019. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, within the end of the first semester there, yeah. He was like, "You know, palace-and-cottage, it's likeMichelangelo was a palace artist; Van Gogh was a cottage artist." I never saw anything she was doing was morose. I had never seen anything like it, or since.

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