Everything is Catch-22 down there! You must compete with the affirmative action quotas whose candidates typically score below the average entry score for most schools. Saba University School of Medicine has rolling admissions. Those who have spoken up have been dismissed even when they have proof, because there are no courts on the island and lawyers on other islands dont like to get involved with Saba. Not that Id want to do it again but if I did Id look into schools in South America that have reasonable tuition even though they dont cater to foreign students. SJSM is a for-profit business. I only applied to Ross and St. George because I knew my chances to get into a U.S medical school was slim to none. So if youre still deciding what to do. As for the educational component of the school, the quality of education is variable. Thats really all anybody needs to know. Those who make the cut are then recommended to E.L.A.M. (six friends, probably a whole lot more, started antidepressants within the first year in Grenada) That might be okay, but probably not. Which they did by the way to the semester 1 students. Its a nightmare, I attended Noreste in Tampico in the early Eighties. With help from family, friends, and an organization called Medical Education Cooperation with Cubawhich helps American students in Cuba prepare for their homecoming with scholarships, tutoring for U.S. exams, and connections to American medical networksshe returned home each summer, gaining experience at hospitals in Minneapolis, Oakland, and Washington, D.C. There are waterfalls, beaches all over, fruit stands, rum shops, paddle boarding, night clubs, beautiful views at the campus, good people, and lots of fun to keep you sane while youre putting in what is most likely the toughest two years of life. You will be exhausted and will likely will be out of time to study on your own. In my opinion, if you cant succeed at SGU, then you would absolutely never succeed at a US medical school. Here is some information you should know about this particular medical school in the Caribbean. Determination is bs. I was not allowed to take my step 2 exam. I am in a Caribbean medical school and 2 of my friends from Toledo are US citizens so they were able to get into US medical schools but I couldnt. But hey maybe after 4 years of graduation and being unemployed you will realize you should have quit and by then your parents will be begging you to move out of the garage. Having had THREE loved ones in Same Week: three different states have something basic simpleDEAD due to teams of no speakem englishem experimenting on US Citizenry nothing more need be stated. Yes, I was a student at a Caribbean medical school. THIS DEGREE IS RECOGNIZED NOWHERE! They dont push themselves with studying. Every single school rejected me. None of the facilities are amazing, but you actually can live with a hot plate and microwave without starving. Good Luck everyone. People fail to do this homework and thats why they have a rude awakening when they get on the island. You might stand your mouth is open in surprise; while some people just say ah, its just the way how things are around here. That program call medical master program . [4] Simple as that. Heidelberg University and Charit in Berlin for example had 3.8% and 5.6% acceptance rates (per Wikipedia), and those clinical programs are ranked very highly (around no. Fewer students from Caribbean med schools go on to the more competitive residencies, Saba included. Saba University. 1) Students are literally mashed into a lecture hall which seats 900 and there are over 1000 students that must click in for mandatory lecture which is 80% of all lectures. If they are going to give a second chance than really give them a second chance . Ive always told myself that beggars cant be choosers so yes..going to a Caribbean school, there will be a ton of obstacles. A new curriculum came into play for the semester 1 students this semester. They make it impossible to do any- Why couldnt you or anyone else who failed a class or exam just commit to learning First Aid from cover to cover? 2. According to USMLE performance data, the school also had a UMSLE Step 1 pass rate of 96 percent in 2018. days there! I am the support for a family member that is attending Antigua Medical school and of course true to the comment above. Getting an MD from a Caribbean school was a valid option maybe two decades ago but the number of residency positions has not increased since that time while the number of new MD and DO schools has. We Dreaded this, so many actually transferred to the Caribbean schools, or did the Old Fifth Pathway year, typically in NYC. You cant take STEP 1 until youve passed it and you get three chances to pass it. I wish I had the hindsight before I went into undergraduate school to pursue a pre-med education. You dont even have the basic medical knowledge, neither you will be a good doctor you will just be another burden on the health care system. Students come to the gym to release some stress and have some social interactions with other students as well. According to Congresswoman Karen Bass, of California, a supporter of E.L.A.M., funding is the main problemparticularly under the current Presidential Administration. Saba University School of Medicine is a relatively new school that was first established in 1992. From my experience and reading up on the application processes when I decided on Medical School programs in 2017, programs in those countries run much longer (usually 6-7 years), require research and a dissertation (Germany), and are incredibly hard to get into as they are taxpayer-subsidized and merit-based, thus highly competitive. They also would try to keep even after a couple of years down the line and ive made a career and life doing something else. How are loan to be paid back. Substandard living conditions and overcrowded campuses are another matter. So much money in US Defense, undergrad diploma mills, etc. one building three stores not large enough to fit all med1s but something to brag about in their brochures I guess. I am a USIMG graduated circa 1983 Dominican Republic. program is accredited by the Accreditation Organization of the Netherlands and Flanders (NVAO), the accrediting body for the Netherlands and Flanders.Approved by New York, California, and FloridaSaba University School of Medicine is one of the few international medical schools with approvals in the key states of New York, California and Florida. You will never see, touch, dissect, or watch a human dissection at AUA. -if you fail how do the governments loans work? MCAT (mandatory for U.S. citizens, nationals or permanent residents all other students strongly encouraged). If you get dismissed and you feel like you been doing well, look at the world and see if there is anywhere else where you can be taught medicine. You might not be accustomed to the standard of living, and its definitely outside of your comfort zone. I am almost one year post-Grenada (doing my clinical rotations in the U.S.) and I still have recurring nightmares of failing out of SGU (with 200,000+ of debt). All of the time and sacrifice I made. 80% of lectures and labs are mandatory, which I believe is inconvenient for many of us. i just want to go to a school in which most if not all the faculty kind of care about the students success and teach well. The medico legal climate is different today than when I started. But I spoke to a physician assistant, who was a doctor from Lebanon, and she changed my whole life around. Required GPA for entrance as of 2019 (newly instated): 2.0 on a 4.0 scale Saba University was the only medical school in the Netherlands Antilles that earned accreditation, and thus was the only medical school to be allowed to stay in those islands. it would be all over or B.) I advise all of you to please consider not attending an off-shore medical school if you are not self-motivated. Dont be afraid to cold call and explain your interests. The stress of studying away from home might be unfair if you compare to other schools; but it depends how you compare or should you even be comparing. I graduated grade school and undergrad in the US for computer sciences. Go get a Masters degree and reapply in 2 years. You know yourself. Nice store, but I would like to say that Nurses, PA, EMT, and ALL other healthcare providers definitely make changes in the world without a doubt. Or a plan B, C and D. Dont let one thing totally devastate you and put you on the edge. The school has registered vendors who are on campus every day selling food and/or fresh produce. Hi please I really need help and direction I will appreciate if we can talk am a Nigerian too considering going to the medical school in carebbean ,please call me 08035100134, Hi Pamela-this student does not indicate which Caribbean medical school he/she attended, Grenada or Dominica or others. charge me more than the car cost(!) I did clerkships in the US and a Fifth Pathway, and got a primary care career. Can you please kindly tell me what school you are talking about? Build more schools, There simply is not enough schools and hospitals. In reality, a class is divided into two groups, the regular cohort who takes classes in a lecture hall and the one that needs extra help goes to a different building. While all the Campuses (Barbados, Jamaica and Trinidad) offer high quality Medical degrees, I highly recommend the beautiful Cave Hill Campus in Barbados. Hi Dr. Wible, Everyone has different experiences about their transition at Caribbean medical schools. I have no idea how theyll pass their medical boards unless the off shore program has figured a way around that too. 2 sections/200 student lecture in one classroom. For those willing to succeed and work hard this school has provided an opportunity for that dream. That being said, you have to really think about how badly you want to be a doctor, because no matter what anyone says; the islands are another country. But, if you really want to become a physician, you have to think about your priorities in life and decide if you want to spend another year trying to get accepted in the US or rather start sooner than later in a Caribbean school. thing by the book. Why could they take my money each semester (which the schools loan company is after me for now) and they would not let me take my exam? and take attendance for all the other times. They have campuses located in the US that I am able to attend live lectures at. Test-takers move up the ladder; not the best doctors necessarily. There are going to be better or worse choices, and everyone is going to experience the life differently. It was more painful to watch kids struggle and always getting in trouble at school and out of school at such a young age after coming from a Boarding School were kids were just kids not smoking in the bathroom or arguing with their teachers. Sabas curriculum emphasizes greater integration between case-based learning and clinical skills development. Let me stay focused on the Caribbean ones. I got into this school that had a reputation for shedding students like an old cat with skin cancer. Being awarded a $900K grant from the W.M. It is emotionally trying. Saba University School of Medicine (Saba) was founded in 1992 with the goal of providing an excellent medical education and expansive career opportunities for dedicated students, while maintaining an affordable tuition that enables them to practice as physicians with far less debt than other similarly credentialed schools. I guess that is the most important thing is accreditation not necessarily the US medical schools are producing great doctors. If you arent in SJSM I advise to get out. This is the best article Ive ever read on the truth of such schools. Perhaps that is true for some, but for many the fact that they realize that a school has just trashed their dreams or making it extremely difficult for them to attain it, is heartbreaking. 2) The mandatory lectures are nearly pathetic. Also how would students find out the truth? But, if you really want to become a physician, you have to think about your priorities in life and decide if you want to spend another year trying to get accepted in the US or rather start sooner than later in a Caribbean school. That leaves the student being taught by faculty that may know less about the area than they do oftentimes. Quality of facilities was fine. Schools like the International University of Health Sciences allow you to take the basic sciences online (2 years), then find a residency in the United States and their system has been very successful. I believe the wonderful weather and beaches around make our anxiety levels to go down. This is definitely on the low end compared to the average U.S. med school GPA of 3.71 (Source). If not after you get ECFMG certified there is only a 50% match rate for IMG both US and non US citizen. International students wishing to do so often look at 1-2 years of preparation in addition to the program one year of language training and language exams to pass the C1-level exam, and one year of preparation courses for physics/ chemistry/ biochemistry/ molecular biology etc. Check out this day in the life of a Saba student as evidence for that. We were charged 3-4 times what the locals were charged and were basically the schools cash cow. Sabas success is on par with U.S. medical schools, greater than most U.S. osteopathic schools and significantly greater than most International medical schools. Im having that issue now. I was a hardworking student with an upwards trajectory grades-wise. It is so tough. We also have visiting professors from the US medical schools that teach a good portion of our classes here, so most of the professors have not been all that bad. Spanish is an excellent 2nd language and it is spoken in many countries. Everybody gets accepted fuck you are paying in dollars in a third world country but when you finnish you will be unable to find an i ternship aka residency, in the usa and not alot of doors are opened for unliscensed professional in the healthcare field. The university receives application from the students at any time of the year, a student can plan in advance to inquire about the status of the classes and Med School program for its application, the Saba University of Medicine Acceptance Rate for each class is approximately 90 students in each. For 30 years, Saba University School of Medicine has been turning dedicated students into Saba doctors. Island conditions were diplorable and I personally had a room infested with cockroaches and spiders. The newly lowered gpa requirement is in place so that they can get more tuition money even though it means that an even higher percentage of students wont make it through the program. Only 50% of these foreign med grads find an actual internship. No school can give you that, you either have it inside you or you dont. Or is it my dream for her? My cumulative gpa is 3.98, that was with working as a nurses aid. See, people lie, but numbers dont. I am an older student with grown up kids. And, really, is medicine about the physicians needs or is it about the needs of those who require medical care? Wow! I hope my words have inspired at least one person and have lit a fire under the buttocks of others. If things are too much, ask for help or if you really have to, its wise to let go and go to your plan B and C. He also did not like the fact that SABA or any other Caribbean students had to work harder and score higher on the USMLE than an American student (MD or DO) to get the same residency. Phillip said that her biggest challenge since becoming a doctor in the U.S. had been reading CT scans and MRIs, which are used sparingly in Cuba, and that she has had to adjust to spending less time with patients. The parents called and said: My kid needs to get back to work! So, we were let out in June, and the next year, before Memorial Day. The school has registered vendors who are on campus every day selling food and/or fresh produce. More than 25 years and 2,500+ successful graduates later . Its a more affordable option. 5. They will bring in a bunch of people, weed a bunch out, and the best test-takers out of the bunch will keep moving up the ladder. Students are not eligible for registration, as the General Medical Council of the UK does not recognize AUC as an accredited medical school because its training was deemed insufficient by their standards (see AUC website, UK Medical Council, Wikipedia etc). You must find ways to cope, because you will be expected to just get good grades and to just be a good doctor always. Classrooms are small, and cramped, and the computer lab has about 20 computers and maybe only 12 work. If one falls below 80% attendance they are automatically failed in the course. Youll see all the positivity in the brochures and the information sessions but I can promise you its a very different experience at least when youre on the island. Most of these physicians are extremely talented and knowledgeable. Xavier University . Unethical business practices After my undergrad, I just went to the PA route and I just spent 2 years of my life working for minimum wage in order to complete the 500 hour minimum requirement. Do you see a pattern here?? Yes! The AUA coordinator is the WORST person ever. It certainly means you are a hard worker but I dont know how it measures smarts.. Which is disappointing to hear. Here is a recent example of a shady/frustrating experience students had to deal with: SJSM, part way through a semester decided that they were going to have students write exam style questions for marks that would contribute to their course grades. My brother graduated from SGU in 2011. By the way the same company that is majority share holder of SGU bought prometric in 2018. In 2016, she was accepted to a residency program in family medicine at a hospital in Hendersonville, North Carolina. Do you also have children. If you got a 2.0 at any university, in any program youre not magically going to become a great student in medical school. You are in a cacoon of whitcist but sorry that cacoon is not even from a proper medical school. (some after repeating terms) (all carry huge amounts of burdensome debt, often financed through the US Federal Loan program), b. Communism. It starts with us and our behavior with each other. We have a great psych department for those who suffer of anxiety, depression or are facing a difficult time. That is why Caribbean medical schools offer an alternative. We have a lot of student organizations in case you want to show off your leadership skills. Saba is not currently subject to the jurisdiction of and thus has not received authorization from the Massachusetts Department of Higher Education. I totally agree with everything youve stated and Im glad I withdrew when I did because that one semester cost me $30,000. Every school cares about money, but they have a good track record from my first-hand observation. Many times-the places And I too would never recommend my school to a loved one. After reading your post you are insinuating that the school is closing down??!!!!!

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